CITR+Ch+14

Taylor Wooley ch 14


 * Holden is depressed. We're surprised.
 * He smokes some cigarettes, watches the dawn, and talks aloud to his brother Allie, which he sometimes does when he's feeling not-so-great.
 * This leads us into another reminiscence, this time about an incident with one of Holden's childhood friends, Bobby Fallon. Allie wanted to go with the two boys (Holden and Bobby) to play, and Holden said no, since Allie was too little.
 * In bed, Holden wishes he could pray, but he's sort of an atheist. Apparently the disciples annoy him, because they were so useless to Jesus.
 * He used to argue about it all the time with a Quaker named Arthur Childs in one of the prep schools he attended.
 * Holden feels pretty sure that Jesus wouldn't have sent Judas to hell, even though the guy betrayed him. So the disciples never even got what they deserved.
 * In fact, all the kids in his family are atheists, and that if there's one thing he can't stand, it's a minister, since they always give sermons in phony voices.
 * Maurice and Sunny at the door, and they want five more dollars.
 * Holden refuses, as they told him it would only cost five. They argue a bit, and Sunny finally takes Holden's wallet off dresser and removes the money.
 * Holden starts to cry. Maurice gives him a shove, and Sunny says to leave the kid alone.
 * Maurice punches him hard in the stomach. Holden staggers around and into the bathroom, pretending (in his own mind) that he's taken a bullet to the gut and is dying. He imagines coming back at Maurice with an automatic, calling Jane, and having her bandage up his guts.
 * Disgusted with himself, Holden notes that the movies can really ruin you
 * Getting back into bed, Holden says he'd jump out the window, if he wouldn't end up with a bunch of rubbernecks staring at his gory body.

Ch.14 Notes by Jacob E. > > > > > >
 * Holden thinks about Allie and feels more depressed after Sunny leaves
 *  We learn that Holden excluded Allie from a BB- gun game and feels guilty about it
 *  We also learn that he is an atheist
 *  Then, Maurice and Sunny show up at his door and threaten Holden to give them the other five dollars
 *  Maurice punches Holden and then takes the five bucks and leaves
 *  Holden fantasizes about him “plugging” Maurice
 *  Holden tries to fall asleep but is too depressed and wants to commit suicide

Chapter 14 notes by Ellen Park After the prostitute leaves Holden smokes a cigarette and starts to think about his dad brother Allie. He recalls a time when he excluded Allie from hanging out with him and a friend and feels guilty about this. He gets into bed and starting thinking about praying which surprises him because he doesn't really believe in anything. When he is contemplating on this, someone knocks at the door and when Holden opens it, it is the hotel operator from earlier. Maurice starts demanding five more dollars from Holden, but Holden continues to resist. As Maurice starts holding Holden down, the prostitute goes to Holden's wallet and takes five dollars. He calls Maurice a moron as they leave and gets a blow to the stomach. Holden then starts fantasizing that he is in a movie and how he wants to shoot Maurice. After staying on the floor for a long time he gets up and goes to bed thinking about suicide.

Chapter 14 By: Raivyn B

Holden remembers a time when he excluded Allie from a game. He still feels guilty about it. He gets into bed, and is surprised that he feels like praying. He says he's "sort of an atheist," and dislikes ministers because they speak in a phony tone of voice.Someone knocks on the door. Holden opens it. Maurice demands five dollars, and pins Holden while Sunny takes the money from Holden's wallet. When Holden calls Maurice a "dirty moron," Maurice punches him in the stomach, leaving him crying on the floor.Holden images himself as a movie star shot in the gut by an enemy, and imagines taking his revenge. Eventually, he goes to sleep.

Chapter 14 Notes: By Clare D.:

Plot Summary:
 * Holden sits and smokes in his hotel room for awhile
 * He remembers a story shortly before Allie's death, where he excluded him from a game with the neighbor
 * He still feels very guilty for this incident
 * He feels like praying, but he starts to think about his distaste for religion and cannot even think how to pray
 * There is a loud knock on the door so Holden answers to find the elevator operator, Maurice, and Sunny
 * They demand the $5 that Holden did not pay, but Holden continues to resist and claim that he only told him five
 * Maurice pins Holden against the wall and Sunny takes the $5 from Holden’s wallet
 * Maurice snaps his finger in Holden's private part but Holden continues to insult him and call him a moron
 * Maurice punches Holden in the stomach and he crumpled to the floor, leaving the pimp and prostitute to escape
 * As he moves to the bathroom, Holden imagines that he is in a movie and acts very dramatically, pretending that he was shot
 * He finally goes to bed after much pain

ch 14 Olivia Follis
 * Very depressed
 * he starts talking out loud to allie as if he were there
 * he is telling allie to go home and get his bike and meet him in front of Bobby Fallon’s house- their neighbor
 * they used to live in maine
 * He didnt let allie come with him on a trip to shoot BB guns, but normally he let him come places with him, but that time he didnt
 * seems as if Holden regrets not being able to have spent that time with allie now that he is dead
 * He felt like praying but he couldnt do it. he cant always pray when he feels like it
 * A self proclaimed sort of but not really atheist
 * he likes jesus but he cant stand the disciples because they let down jesus when he was alive
 * his favorite person in the bible besides jesus is this crazy guy who cuts himself with rocks and lives in a tomb
 * he debated this topic of religion with a boy named Arthur Childs from the Whooton School
 * shows his immaturity and lack of understanding, in this case the bible
 * He says he would bet $1000 that jesus wouldnt send judas to hell because of his kind heartedness
 * his parents are different religions and all the kids in his family are atheists - why he doesnt go to church
 * he cant stand the ministers because they use phony voices
 * as he is laying there he gets a knock on the door from Maurice and Sunny
 * they ask for the $5 owed to Sunny for the throw, but holden was only told it costed $5 not $10
 * Maurice and Holden start to argue
 * Maurice starts laying his hands on Holden and trys to intimidate him by pinning him against the door
 * Sunny offers to get Holdens wallet, she does and takes the $5
 * Holden starts to cry and Sunny immediately tells Maurice that they should leave
 * Maurice smacks Holden
 * He stays on the floor a long time after he is hit just like when Stradlater punched him
 * He goes off in his head saying how he would shoot Maurice and all the details of his crime, but we know it is all talk. he blames this thinking on the movies
 * He says he felt like committing suicide, but the only thing stopping him from jumping out the window was that he needed to be sure someone would immediately cover him up so that people would not be able to see him all gory


 * Chapter 14 Summary - Atlee Hasson**

After Sunny leaves, Holden recalls a memory he has of Allie, noting that he feels very depressed. Although the story he recalls had little effect on Allie, it makes Holden feel a little bit guilty of how he denied Allie the chance to spend time with him and a friend. Holden gets in bed, trying to pray, but instead telling how he is an athiest, even though he speaks his opinions of the Bible. Holden speaks of his disapproval for the Disciples, and tells about his argument with a former classmate, Arthur Childs, at the Whooton School. Holden believes Jesus would not send Judas to Hell, but Arthur thinks otherwise. While laying in bed, Maurice and Sunny knock on Holden's door. Maurice claims that he told Holden he owes five more dollars, repeating "Let's have it, chief." Holden acts calm, but is extremely nervous as Maurice continues to demand the money. Sunny takes $5 from Holden's wallet, and Holden beings to cry because of how nervous he is. Maurice hits Holden hard on the way out, leaving Holden on the ground as he did after the fight with Stradlater. Holden then imagines shooting Maurice, and ends the chapter with contemplating suicide.


 * Chapter 14 Summary by Kevin Kim**
 * After Holden kicks out Sunny, Holden remembers a memory Allie.
 * He excluded Allie from playing a BB-gun game.
 * Even now he still feels guilty about neglecting Allie.
 * Holden tries to pray but admits that he is an athiest, but he still appreciates the bible.
 * Holden shows that he doesn't like the Disciples.
 * He had an argument with a classmate, Arthur Childs.
 * Holden also likes a biblical figure called Legion.
 * While in bed, Maurice and Sunny knock on Holden's door.
 * Maurice wants the $5 that Holden apparently owns.
 * They get the money and leave.
 * But before they leave, Maurice hits Holden.
 * Holden wants to shoot Maurice and ends the chapter with thinking about suicide.

Chapter 14 Notes: Ryan McDonnell

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Holden is in his hotel room, depressed, and smoking cigarettes after Sunny leaves his room. While depressed, he recalls a time shortly prior to Allie’s death in which he excluded Allie from a game that involved BB Guns because he thought it was too dangerous. He still feels guilty for what he did to Allie. He feels like praying, but then talks about how he always disliked religion, and he stops. While in bed, he hears a knock on the door, and he is hoping it is not his, but he knows it is his. He opens up the door, and finds Maurice, the pimp, and Sunny, the prostitute, outside his door while he is in his pajamas. Maurice came to get the extra five dollars from Sunny, but Holden refuses, for he said he only needed to pay five. Sunny then finds his wallet, and takes money out of it, and Maurice restraints Holden, and snaps his finger into his groin, to which Holden insults him. Maurice then hits him, and he falls to the floor. Holden then imagines himself as a gangster-type movie character, who takes revenge on Maurice by shooting him in the gut with a Tommy gun. Holden then goes into bed and falls asleep. ======

Grace S - Chapter 14
 * After Sunny leaves, Holden starts smoking and thinking about Allie. He becomes extremely depressed, and thinks about a time where he wouldn't let Allie hang out with him and his friend, but he's trying to rewrite the story by thinking about telling Allie that he can come
 * Holden undresses, gets to bed and starts thinking about Jesus and the Disciples because he wanted to pray. He then starts to hate the Disciples for "letting Jesus down" and says he likes the guy who cuts himself with stones the best and he's better than the Disciples
 * Holden talks about a guy named Arthur Childs who he talked about Jesus and the Disciples with
 * Holden decides not to pray, and while he's smoking another cigarette he hears a knock at the door
 * Maurice and Sunny are at the door. Holden answers them in his pajamas and they're asking for five more dollars
 * Holden continuously refuses to pay them because Maurice told him five dollars for a night, not ten, and they push Holden out of the way and come inside
 * While Holden and Maurice are arguing, Sunny snags five dollars from Holden's wallet
 * Holden really starts insulting Maurice, and after Sunny secures the money Maurice punches Holden in the stomach. The two leave
 * After Holden gets up to go to the bathroom, he starts creating a movie scene in his head regarding him, Maurice, and Jane
 * The chapter ends with Holden in bed trying to fall asleep, but he has the urge to commit suicide. He decided not to because he didn't want people to see his mangled body after he jumped out of the window
 * "I didn't want a bunch of stupid rubbernecks looking at me when I was all gory" (117).

Shihab P. =__**Summary**__=
 * Once Sunny leaves, Holden begins to smoke in his room.
 * He begins to remember an incident that happened shortly before Allie's death, where Holden excluded Allie from a BB-Gun game. He still feels guilty about leaving Allie out.
 * Eventually, Holden decides to go to bed.
 * He notices the feels like he wants to pray, but his hatred for organized religions stop him.
 * Suddenly, there is knocking at the door. Holden opens the door to find out the elevator operator, Maurice, is back with Sunny to collect the extra $5.
 * Holden refuses, and Maurice pins him against the wall while Sunny takes the money from his wallet.
 * Holden starts to insult Maurice.
 * Once the money is secured, Maurice slugs Holden and leaves him lying on the floor.
 * Holden starts to create movie scenes of him taking revenge on Maurice.
 * Finally, he manages to go to sleep, but after having an urge to commit suicide.

=RAKIB RAZZAK.=


 * After Sunny leaves, Holden smokes a few cigarettes and thinks about a time he refused to take his little brother Allie with him somewhere.
 * The thought depresses him, and he gets into bed and wants to pray
 * When he tries to pray, all he can hear is Sunny calling him a crumb- bum.
 * As he decides to get up and have another cigarette, there is a knock on his door.
 * Maurice and Sunny are waiting outside.
 * The pimp demands another five dollars from Holden, telling him that the price was ten dollars.
 * Holden refuses to pay in a voice that was very shaky
 * As Maurice threatens him, Sunny goes into the room and takes an additional five dollars from Holden’s wallet.
 * Holden bursts into tears and challenges Maurice to a fight.
 * Maurice punches Holden in the stomach.
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.6667px; vertical-align: baseline;">He falls to the floor, crying and hurt, as Maurice and Sunny leave.
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.6667px; vertical-align: baseline;">When Holden gets off the floor,he imagines himself killing Maurice in the elevator.
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.6667px; vertical-align: baseline;">He also imagines that he is a tough guy from the movies, who has been shot in the stomach, and he pictures himself committing suicide
 * <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.6667px; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden tries to calm himself by taking a bath and attempts to go to sleep.