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Chapter 24 notes by Ellen Park Holden heads to Mr. Antolini's house who just had a dinner party. When Holden enters he notices that Mr. Antolini has been drinking and so he sits and starts a conversation with him. Mr. Antolini asks Holden why he got expelled from Pencey while Mrs. Antolini makes some coffee. Holden tells Mr. Antolini that he didn't like all the rules that they had and how they were extremely strict. He mentions a time when a group of students go punished for straying off topic in class. Mr. Anotolini tells Holden the importance of staying on topic, but Holden disagrees with what he say to say. Holden starts yawning and realizes how exhausted he is and sleeps on the couch. When Holden wakes up, he finds Mr. Antolini stroking his head. Holden feels weird by this and feels like it was an inappropriate gesture although Mr. Antolini claims that it wasn't anything. Holden then goes out of the house feeling weird about what happened.

Chapter 24 by Raivyn Brown

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When Holden arrives at Mr. Antolini’s, Mr. Antolini and his wife have just wrapped up a dinner party in their upscale Sutton Place apartment. Glasses and dishes are everywhere, and Holden can tell that Mr. Antolini has been drinking. Holden takes a seat, and the two begin talking. As Mrs. Antolini prepares coffee, Mr. Antolini inquires about Holden’s expulsion from Pencey Prep. Holden reveals that he disliked the rules and regulations at Pencey Prep. As an example, he mentions his debate class in which students were penalized for digressing from their subject. Holden argues that digressions are more interesting. Instead of offering complete sympathy, Mr. Antolini gently challenges Holden, pointing out that digressions are often distracting, and that sometimes it is more interesting and appropriate to stick to the topic. Holden begins to see the weakness of his argument and becomes uncomfortable. But Mrs. Antolini cuts the tension, bringing coffee for Holden and Mr. Antolini before going to bed.After this respite, Mr. Antolini resumes the discussion on a much more serious note. He tells Holden that he is worried about him because he seems primed for a major fall, a fall that will leave him frustrated and embittered against the rest of the world, particularly against the sort of boys he hated at school. At this suggestion Holden becomes defensive and argues that he actually, after a while, grows to semi-like guys like Ackley and Stradlater. After an awkward silence, Mr. Antolini further explains the “fall” he is envisioning, saying that it is experienced by men who cannot deal with the environment around them. But he tells Holden that if he applies himself in school, he will learn that many men and women have been similarly disturbed and troubled by the human condition, and he will also learn a great deal about his own mind. Holden seems interested in what Mr. Antolini has to say, but he is exhausted. Finally, he is unable to suppress a yawn. Mr. Antolini chuckles, makes up the couch, and, after some small talk about girls, lets Holden go to sleep.Suddenly, Holden wakes up; he feels Mr. Antolini’s hand stroking his head. Mr. Antolini claims it was nothing, but Holden believes Mr. Antolini is making a homosexual advance and hurries out of the apartment. ====== Olivia Kriwasch-period 8
 * ** Holden goes to Mr. Antolini’s apartment when him and his wife have just finished with a dinner party **
 * ** He can tell that Mr. Antolini has been drinking **
 * ** They begin talking **
 * ** Mrs. Antolini begins to make coffee **
 * ** Mr. Antolini asks him about why he was kicked out of Pencey **
 * ** Holden says he didn’t like the strict rules **
 * ** He tells about a time when students were punished from straying from the topic **
 * ** Mr. Antolini points out that this can be distracting, and it is important to stay with the topic **
 * ** Holden sees that he is wrong **
 * ** Mrs. Antolini brings them coffee, which makes things less awkward **

Holden reveals that he has known Mr and Mrs Antolini for quite some time and that they have a close relationship with the family. When Holden arrives, Mr Antolini receives him warmly. He soon reveals that he is very concerned about Holden's state. Mr Antolini takes great care in wording his concerns. His analysis of Holden's problems go much deeper than either Carl Luce's or Phoebe's as he warns Holden that he is headed for a fall. His insightfulness is demonstrated through his accuracy in describing Holden's hatred for people and also by alluding to Holden's preoccupation with the ducks in central park when he talks about Holden as being like someone who is 'looking for something that their own environment couldn't supply'. Mr Antolini also expresses concerns for Holden's death. Holden wakes to find Mr Antolini patting his head. Taking this as a sexual advance, Holden flees claiming he left some money and luggage with the cab.
 * Ch 24 Notes**
 * (Isabella L, p1)**


 * Sujin Bang (P.8)**
 * **Holden heads to Mr. Antolini's apartment riding a cab, he could have walked but he felt dizzy**
 * **When he arrives at Mr. Antolini's place he greets him and his wife, who a lot older than Mr.Antolini and is "lousy with money"**
 * **It seems as if they have had a party, and that Mr. Antolini has been drinking**
 * **When Holden in sitting, Mr. Antolini offers him a cigarette and Holden take it (what kind of teacher offers a student a cigarette??)**
 * **Mr. Antolini and Holden talk about his classes, and Holden says he says passed English but failed Oral Expression because he was supposed to avoid getting off topic**
 * **Mr. Antolini says that if you start with one topic, you have to stick to that topic until you finish it**
 * **Mrs. Antolini comes out with coffee and cake and she goes the room too sleep**
 * **Mr. Antolini says that he had lunch with Holden's father a few weeks ago and said he got a letter from the headmaster of Pency saying that he cut many classes and came unprepared everytime**
 * **Holden keeps listening to Mr. Antolini and suddenly he yawns, then Mr. Antolini, gets the bed sheets for him to sleep on**
 * **Holden sleeps but suddenly wakes up feeling a hand on his head and realizes it is Mr. Antolini**
 * **Holden freaks out and hurriedly leaves Mr. Antolini's place to go to the station to get his stuff**

Holden describes the Antolini's somewhat close relationship to his family, and also describes where the Antolinis live. Mr. Antolini's wife is said by Holden to be sixty years older than Mr. Antolini, but she is just noticeably older than he is. Upon entering the apartment, Mr Antolini takes Holden's coat, slightly drunk, and Mrs. Antolini is making coffee. They had just held a party, so the place was a bit messy. Holden often notes having a headache and feeling queasy. Holden dives in depth of his dislike for Pencey, specifically Oral Expression class. Mr. Antolini asks Holden if there is a time and a place for things, due to Holden's apparent interest in curiosity and wandering off topic. This shows how Holden is often unable to focus or spend time on most things for too long before abandoning them. Mr. Antolini also tells Holden that he had lunch with Holden's father a little awhile ago, mentioning his father's concern for Holden. Mr. Antolini then engages in a long conversation with Holden about his upcoming "terrible fall." He believes Holden needs to start focusing in school as to avoid this dangerous and eminent fall. After the speech, Holden makes the couch and goes to bed. The chapter closes with Mr. Antolini holding his hand on Holden's forehead, waking him up, spooking him, and making him leave to the station to get his bags.
 * Chapter 24 Summary - Atlee Hasson**

chapter 24 notes sean hayes

Summary
•When Holden arrives at Mr. Antolini’s, Mr. Antolini and his wife have just wrapped up a dinner party in their Sutton Place apartment •Glasses and dishes are everywhere, and Holden can tell that Mr. Antolini has been drinking •As Mrs. Antolini prepares coffee, Mr. Antolini asks about Holden’s expulsion from Pencey Prep •Holden reveals that he didn't like the rules and regulations at Pencey •As an example, he mentions his debate class in which students were penalized for digressing from their subject •Holden argues that digressions are more interesting •Mr. Antolini gently challenges Holden, pointing out that digressions are often distracting, and that sometimes it is more interesting and appropriate to stick to the topic •Holden begins to see the weakness of his argument and becomes uncomfortable •But Mrs. Antolini cuts the tension, bringing coffee for Holden and Mr. Antolini before going to bed •After this respite, Mr. Antolini resumes the discussion on a much more serious note •He tells Holden that he is worried about him because he seems primed for a major fall, a fall that will leave him frustrated and embittered against the rest of the world, particularly against the sort of boys he hated at school •At this suggestion Holden becomes defensive and argues that he actually, after a while, grows to semi-like guys like Ackley and Stradlater •After an awkward silence, Mr. Antolini further explains the “fall” he is envisioning, saying that it is experienced by men who cannot deal with the environment around them •But he tells Holden that if he applies himself in school, he will learn that many men and women have been similarly disturbed and troubled by the human condition, and he will also learn a great deal about his own mind •Holden seems interested in what Mr. Antolini has to say, but he is exhausted •Finally, he is unable to suppress a yawn. Mr. Antolini chuckles, makes up the couch, and Holden goes to sleep <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">•Suddenly, Holden wakes up; he feels Mr. Antolini’s hand stroking his head <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">•Mr. Antolini claims it was nothing, but Holden believes Mr. Antolini is making a homosexual advance and hurries out of the apartment.