CITR+Ch+15

ch 15 Taylor Wooley


 * Holden wakes up around 10, smokes some cigarettes, and thinks about Jane.
 * He does end up giving Sally Hayes a call. He says she's not too smart, but he got tricked into thinking so for a while since she knew a lot about theater and literature and all that stuff. Also, he spent a lot of time making out with her, which can obscure the facts.
 * Once has her on the phone, they set a date to see a matinee. Then she tells him all about these boys who are just crazy over her, which is a less than tactful thing to do.
 * After he hangs up, Holden looks out his window at the "perverts" across the way, but they all have their shades pulled down.
 * It's only Sunday and he knows he can't go home for a few more days. So, he gets in a cab and heads for Grand Central Station.
 * He counts his money and realizes he's spent a ton since he left school, which is nothing new, but still makes him feel bad. We also get some insight here into Holden's family—it seems his father does in fact make a lot of money, as a corporation (corporate) lawyer.
 * After dropping his bags off, Holden has a light breakfast at a counter. Turns out, the reason he's so skinny is that he never eats enough.
 * Holden lends a hand to two nuns nearby who don't seem to know what to do with their cheap suitcases.
 * At Elkton Hills (one of his many previous boarding schools), Holden roomed with a guy named Dick Slagle who had very inexpensive suitcases.
 * He was so embarrassed about it that he used to keep them under the bed instead of on the luggage rack.
 * this was depressing to Holden, who himself had very expensive suitcases. So he put his under the bed, too.
 * Dick kept taking Holden's suitcases out and putting them back on the rack so that people would think they were his.
 * both of them ended up getting new roommates.
 * one of the nuns is carrying one of those Salvation Army-type baskets for other people to donate money.
 * He asks if they're taking up a collection, as he would make a contribution. He's mostly depressed that they're eating toast and coffee while he's eating bacon and eggs.
 * He finally gives them ten dollars, though they keep asking if he's sure he can afford to do that.
 * The nuns, in addition to being nuns, are schoolteachers from Chicago who have just come to New York.
 * One of the nuns teaches English, and Holden wonders how she feels about the sexy bits of books she has to teach. You know, since she's a nun.
 * The nun gets all excited about //Romeo and Juliet//, which Holden thinks isn't exactly nun-appropriate. But he indulges in a discussion of it anyway.
 * What bothered him most in the play wasn't when Romeo and Juliet died; it was when Mercutio died.
 * Holden tries to pay the nuns' bill, but the women won't let him.
 * He remembers a kid named Louis Shaney who was cool to talk to until Louis tried to subtly find out if he was Catholic.
 * After accidentally blowing smoke in the nuns' face as they say goodbye, Holden apologizes, is embarrassed, and generally feels depressed by the whole thing, especially the money part.

Ch.15 Notes by Jacob E. > > > > > >
 *  Holden calls up Sally Hayes to make a date
 *  He leaves the hotel
 *  Holden thinks about his parents and some memories that he had with them
 *  Holden doesn’t talk about his parents much
 *  While eating breakfast, he meets two nuns and gives them ten dollars
 *  He thinks about money he needs for his date with Sally, but regrets only giving them only ten dollars
 *  Holden talks about how money affects people

Chapter 15 notes by Ellen Park Holden wants to call Jane, but calls Sally Hayes in the morning to make a date wither her later that day. He then checks out of his hotel and head to the Grand Central Station to store his things in a locker. He's worries that his money might be stolen and thinks about his family and how his parents have wealthy jobs. He then thinks about how his mother hasn;t been the same since Allie died and worries what might happen if she hears that he got expelled again. He has breakfast at a sandwich shop because he was afraid that Maurice might appear if he had ordered food in the hotel. He meets two nuns while eating breakfast and notices that they have cheap suitcases. Then they start talking about Romeo and Juliet and forces the nuns to take a ten dollar donation but feels bad that its all he gave after they leave.

Chapter 15 By: Raivyn B The next morning Holden calls up Sally Hayes. He says that Sally is a girl who seems intelligent and sophisticated, but is actually stupid. He makes a date with her for that afternoon.Holden checks out of the hotel and goes to Grand Central Station to store his bags in a locker, and thinks of his family. His father is a successful corporate lawyer, and his mother has been nervous and ill since Allie died. He worries what his expulsion from Pencey will do to her. While having breakfast at a sandwich shop, Holden meets two nuns carrying cheap suitcases. He talks with them, though as they discuss [|Romeo and Juliet] he wonders if they're comfortable with its sexual content.Though low on funds, Holden gives the nuns a ten-dollar donation. After the nuns leave, Holden wishes he had given them more than ten dollars.

Chapter 15 Notes: By Clare D.:

Plot Summary:
 * The next morning Holden calls up his old friend Sally Hayes to make it a date for later that day
 * He checks out of the hotel and goes to Grand Central Station, he puts his stuff in a locker and goes to get some breakfast
 * He worries about losing his money, because he does it often and it another's his family
 * He briefly describes his mother and mentions that she hasn't been herself since Allie’s death
 * He worries that his expulsion will make this illness his mother is experiencing worse, he appears to really care about this
 * He goes to breakfast and meets two nuns who moved to the city to teach
 * Holden thinks about the superficial world he comes from and other petty things as he sees the nuns
 * He begins to talk with them and they discuss his school and the literature he has read, including Romeo and Juliet, which the nuns like but Holden doesn't
 * He notices their collection baskets and forces them to take donation of $10 (sound like a familiar amount?)
 * They thank him and as they leave he makes the mistake of blowing smoke in their faces, which he feels extremely guilty about
 * He thinks about the importance of money for his date and he regrets not giving more, he decides that money just makes people depressed

Short Notes of Ch. 15 -The next morning Holden calls up Sally Hayes. He says that Sally is a girl who seems intelligent and sophisticated, but is actually stupid. He makes a date with her for that afternoon to see a matinee at the Biltmore Theatre. -Holden checks out of the hotel and goes to Grand Central Station to store his bags in a locker, and thinks of his family: his father is a successful corporate lawyer, and his mother has been nervous and ill since Allie died. He worries what his expulsion from Pencey will do to her. -While having breakfast at a sandwich shop in Grand Central Station. Holden meets two nuns carrying cheap suitcases. He talks with them, though as they discuss Romeo and Juliet, he wonders if they're comfortable with its sexual content. -Though low on funds, Holden gives the nuns a ten-dollar donation. After the nuns leave, Holden wishes he had given them more than ten dollars. He decides that money always ends up depressing everybody. (Isabella L)

Ch. 15 Notes by Sean H.:
 * Holden calls Sally Hayes and makes a date with her for later
 * He checks out of the hotel and leaves his bags in a locker at Grand Central Station
 * He worries about losing his money and says that his father gets angry when Holden loses things
 * He describes his mother, saying that she “hasn’t felt too healthy since my brother Allie died.” Holden is worried that the news of his expulsion from Pencey will distress his mother
 * Holden goes to eat breakfast at a sandwich bar, where he meets two nuns who are moving to Manhattan to teach
 * Holden thinks about the superficial money-driven world of the prep school he has just left
 * Then he talks to one of the nuns about Romeo and Juliet
 * He forces them to take ten dollars as a charitable contribution
 * After they leave, although he realizes he needs money to pay for his date with Sally, he regrets having given only ten dollars
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He ends the chapter with stating that money always makes people depressed

ch 15 Olivia F.:
 * He wanted to order breakfast that morning but was afraid that maurice might be sent up to deliver it
 * contemplates calling jane, but isnt in the mood
 * Instead calls up Sally Hayes, a girl from the Mary A. Woodruff
 * used to think that she was intelligent because she knew a lot about theater
 * They used to make out a lot
 * Whenever he necks with someone he always thinks the person is intelligent
 * describes her as a phony when she answers the phone
 * He invites her to a matinee
 * She says ‘grand’ and holden says how much he hates that word because it sounded so phony
 * almost tells her to forget about the matinee because she said ‘grand’
 * She talk a lot
 * Tells her to meet him at the Biltmore at 2 and not to be late
 * he packed his bag and looked out the window to see the perverts
 * Doesnt know where to stay because he cant go home until wednesday and he doesnt want to get beat up in another hotel
 * Goes to grand central station and decides he will get a strong box to hold his suitcase
 * His father is wealthy- a corporate lawyer
 * mom hasnt felt the same since her son allie died
 * ^thats why he doesnt want to tell her he got kicked out because she is already fragile
 * These nuns sit next to him at the restaurant and they had cheap looking suitcases
 * Holden hates cheap suitcases
 * He roomed with this boy who had cheap suitcases so holden took his own off the rack and under his bed so that the boy wouldnt feel bad about his. the boy brought them back out because he wanted people to think that they were his
 * Says that you cant room with people who dont have the same standard of suitcase
 * He offers the nuns money for when they start collecting
 * He strikes up conversation with the nuns
 * one is an english teacher and he cant help but wonder how she could read sexy books
 * He starts talking about Romeo and Juliet and says he didnt particularly like it because Mercutio gets killed because of the fault of others
 * The english teaching nun remind him of Ernest Morrow’s mom
 * he trys to pay for their bill but they wont allow it
 * He says how all catholics want to know if you are a catholic
 * he was glad the nuns didnt ask him because it would have ruined the conversation
 * as they were leaving he accidentally blows cigarette smoke in their faces and he feel very badly and apologizes profusely
 * feels bad that he only donated $10

Lindsay Czekaj

Here is a link to a suitcase that Holden mentions he has, made by Mark Cross, which Dick Slagel calls bourgeois (middle class with materialistic values) because the suitcases he brought to school were inexpensive.

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Ryan McDonnell Notes Chapter 15:

Holden thinks about ordering breakfast, but then thinks of the possibility of Maurice delivering it, so he decides against it. He then thinks of calling Jane, but instead calls up Sally Hayes, and makes a date with her for that same afternoon. He checks out of the hotel and leaves his stuff in a locker at the Grand Central Station, where he talks about how he worries about losing his money and how his father would frequently get angry when he would lose things. He then describes his mother, saying that she hasn’t been right since Allie died. Holden worries that the news of his expulsion will distress the mother, for whom he cares very much. He then goes to a sandwich bar to eat breakfast, where he meets two nuns who are going to Manhattan to teach in a school. He thinks about the money-driven prep school that he had been kicked out of. He then talks to one of the nuns about Romeo and Juliet,and then forces them to accept ten dollars for charity. He then concludes that money always makes people depressed.

Grace S - Chapter 15
 * Holden didn't sleep long that night, and he was really hungry and wanted to order room service, but he was afraid Maurice would be the person bringing him his food so he just sat in his bed and smoked
 * He wanted to call Jane, but he decided to call Sally Hayes instead.
 * Sally Hayes is a girl Holden knows very well from all the "necking" they did together, but he sees her as stupid despite her knowledge of the theatre and literature
 * Holden calls Sally and invites her to a matinee and she accepts. Holden listens to Sally talk about guys she's met that can't get enough of her and Holden isn't very interested
 * Holden hangs up, gets dressed and packs his bag so he's ready to leave. He gets a cab and tells the driver to take him to the Grand Central Station
 * While Holden is in the cab, he counts his money to see if he can afford some breakfast. Sorting through his cash reminds him of his father, and how wealthy his father is. He also thinks about his mother and how she hasn't been doing too well since Allie died
 * After locking up his bags Holden has some breakfast (is his middle name really Vitamin?)
 * Holden notices two nuns that sat down next to him and he helped them with there not-so-expensive suitcases. It irritates Holden that their suitcases aren't good looking, and he launches into this backstory about a boy who had cheap suitcases
 * When Holden went to Elkton Hills, he roomed with this boy Dick Slagle. Slagle hid his old suitcases under the bed and Holden's were always on the suitcase rack. Holden thought it was because Slagle felt bad that he had bad suitcases, but it was because Slagle wanted people to think Holden's suitcases were his. Even though Slagle insulted Holden for having such expensive things, Slagle always borrowed them, and Holden complemented Slagle on his sense of humor and said he had a lot of fun hanging out with him.
 * One of the nuns drops her basket, and Holden picks it up for her asking if she's with the Salvation Army collecting donations. She says no, but Holden gives her $10 anyway for when she does start collecting donations
 * Holden notices they're eating way less than he is, and it makes him feel bad
 * Holden strikes up a general conversation topic, asking them where they're headed to. They say they're school teachers and they're heading someplace uptown to teach; The one sitting next to Holden is an English teacher and the other nun is a History + American Government teacher
 * Holden mentions that English is his favorite subject, and talks about what he's been reading recently with the English nun
 * Holden goes in depth about //Romeo and Juliet//, saying that Mercutio was his favorite character and he didn't like that he was killed by Tybalt
 * The History nun tells the English nun they should get going, so they say goodbye to Holden
 * Holden reveals that throughout the whole conversation, he was afraid that the nuns would ask him if he was Catholic. Holden feels that if someone talks about being Catholic, it ruins the conversation. He says everyone thats Catholic wants to know if you're catholic, and uses an old experience of his to prove his point
 * The chapter ends with Holden accidentally blowing smoke in the nuns' faces, apologizing profusely, and regretting only giving them $10
 * "[Money] always ends up making you blue as hell" (126).

Olivia Kriwasch-period8
 * ** Holden calls Sally hayes to make a date with her for the afternoon **
 * ** He leaves his hotel and leaves his bags at the Grand Central Station **
 * ** He fears of losing his money, and remembers his father getting mad at him for losing things **
 * ** He recalls a little about his mom, and how she never fully recovered from Allie’s death **
 * ** He cares a lot for his mom **
 * ** He goes to a cafe to eat breakfast and meets two nuns that are moving to Manhattan to teach **
 * ** Holden recalls how money-driven Pencey was **
 * ** He talks to one nun about Romeo and Juliet **
 * ** He forces the nuns to take ten dollars as a donation **
 * ** He realizes he needs money for his date with Sally, but regrets only giving ten dollars **
 * ** Holden feels that money always makes people depressed **

=RAKIB RAZZAK.=


 * Holden wakes up at around ten o’clock on Sunday morning, surprised not to have slept later.
 * He is about to call room service, but his fear that Maurice will deliver the food makes him change his mind.
 * He also thinks about calling Jane Gallagher, but calls Sally Hayes instead.
 * They make plans for two o’clock that afternoon.
 * He realizes he does not have much money left, so he checks out of the hotel.
 * Holden takes a taxi to Grand Central Station.
 * He checks his baggage into a locker there and eats breakfast in the cafeteria.
 * Two nuns come and sit near him and he talks to them
 * one is an English teacher and Holden discusses literature with her.
 * He notices their cheap suitcases, which make him think of Dick Slagle, someone he was roommates with.
 * Dick also had very cheap luggage which he hid under his bed.
 * Holden had very expensive luggage that he at kept on the racks for everyone to see.
 * Holden decided to put his luggage under his bed for Dick slagles peace of mind
 * Slagle took Holden’s luggage from under the bed and pretended it was his.
 * The memory of this incident really bothers Holden
 * While they are eating, Holden decides to give the nuns a contribution of ten dollars even though he is low on money
 * He even offers to pay their bill, but they refuse.
 * After they leave, Holden wishes he had given them more than ten dollars.