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Chapter 4 notes by Ellen Park Holden keeps Stradlater company while he prepares himself for his date. Holden says the Stradlater is really a secret slob, but doesn't show it because he always takes care of himself and makes sure he looks the best he can. Stradlater asks Holden if he can write his composition, but to write it bad. Holden mentions how he hates it when people pretend that the only reason that they are bad at English is because they don't put the commas in the right place, like Stradlater. Holden finds out that Stradlater's date is Jane and remembers her and asks him if he knows about her checker strategies. Holden isn't sure if he should go down with Stradlater to greet Jane, but doesn't end up going because he wasn't in the mood.

Taylor Wooley ch4 notes
 * Holden, who doesn't have anything better to do, goes along with Stradlater to the bathroom to bug him while he shaves and whistles. Badly.
 * Stradlater is a "secret slob"—he always looks put together and smells nice and all that jazz, but secret things, like his razor blade, are all crumby and filled with hair and rust. Ew.
 * , the big favor is that Stradlater needs Holden to write him a composition, but not a good one.
 *  Holden hates it when people like Stradlater try to pretend the only reason they're bad at English essays is commas, when really they're just not good at English.
 * Holden responds by doing a tap dance like you see in the movies, which he hates.
 * He makes a point of telling us that Stradlater laughs.
 * Stradlater compliments the red hunting hat, but only so he can butter up Holden to ask him again to write his English composition
 * Holden asks about a girl (Fitzgerald) that Stradlater was dating at one point. Stradlater says she's too old for Holden, and Holden responds by trying to put Stradlater in a half nelson.
 * Stradlater pushes Holden away.
 * Stradlater says his date's name is Jean Gallagher, and Holden almost drops dead
 *  her name isn't Jean—it's Jane, and Holden practically grew up next door to her.
 * Stradlater obviously knows nothing about this girl, but Holden goes on about how she used to dance ballet when she was little, and how, when they played checkers, she would never move her kings from the back row
 * Holden admits that most people aren't interested in such details. Stradlater is obviously a member of that majority.
 * Stradlater gives Holden the go-ahead to run down and say hello, but instead Holden sticks around and talks about Jane's stepfather, an alcoholic who used to run around the house naked all the time.
 * Now Stradlater's interested.
 * Holden tells him to give his regards to Jane, but he knows Stradlater is the kind of guy that never does give regards, even when you make a point of asking him to.
 * <span style="background-color: #faf8f5; color: #222222; font-family: Roboto,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> this irritates Holden, who figures Stradlater is probably thinking that if Jane knew what a "sexy bastard" she was going on a date with, she probably would have signed out until three in the morning.
 * <span style="background-color: #faf8f5; color: #222222; font-family: Roboto,sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">Holden's actually relieved when Ackley comes back, because it gives him something to do other than think about Stradlater potentially getting busy with Jane.

Chapter 4 Notes by Jacob E. > > > > > >
 * As Stradlater gets ready for his date, Holden strikes up a conversation with him
 * Holden compares Stradlater and Ackley because they have weird personal hobbies
 * Stradlater asks Holden to do his English composition for him
 * Before leaving, Holden asks Stradlater who he is dating, and Stradlater reluctantly responds by saying that he is dating Jane Gallagher
 * Holden was friends with Jane and was very fond of her
 * Holden thinks about going with Stradlater, but decides not to go because he wasn't in the mood and felt uncomfortable
 * Stradlater leaves, and Holden is happy to see Ackley come in

Chapter 4 Notes by Noah Clemens


 * Stradlater is getting ready for his date and Holden is talking with him.
 * Holden compares Stradlater to Ackley, except he does not show his slobby side because Stradlater is so in love with himself
 * Stradlater is handsome, but he does not maintain his personal belongings
 * Stradlater wants Holden to write an english paper for him.
 * Holden finds out Stradlater is going out with Jane Gallagher.
 * Holden was childhood friends with Jane.
 * Then Holden asks about Jane's checker strategies.
 * Stradlater is uninterested.
 * Holden is uneasy about whether he should go down and say hi to Jane but ends up not going because he was not in the mood.
 * Stradlater leaves and Ackley comes into his room

<span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Chapter 4 by Raivyn Brown <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Holden <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> keeps <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Stradlater <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> company as he shaves to prepare for his date. Holden comments that Stradlater is a "secret" slob, who is handsome but has personal habits as dirty as <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Ackley <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">'s. <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Stradlater <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> asks <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Holden <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> to do his English homework for him. Holden asks Stradlater who he's dating. When Stradlater doesn't immediately tell Holden, Holden puts him in a half nelson. Though annoyed, <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Stradlater <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> says that his date is <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Jane Gallagher <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">, whom he mistakenly calls "Jean." <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Holden <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> knows her, and goes on for a while about playing checkers with her one summer, but Stradlater doesn't seem to care. Eventually, he borrows Holden's hound's-tooth jacket, and leaves. <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Holden <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> remains in the bathroom, uncomfortable with thoughts of <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Jane <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> and the sexually experienced <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Stradlater <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">together. When he returns to his room, <span class="inline-character" style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;">Ackley <span style="color: #222222; font-family: Lato,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 16.875px;"> again barges in. This time Holden's happy to see him.
 * Chapter 4 by Rosilla Edward**
 * Stradlater is shaving in the bathroom to get ready for his date
 * Holden follows him in and talks to him while he is shaving
 * Holden compares Stradlater to Ackley, except he does not show his slobby side because Stradlater is so in love with himself
 * Stradlater is handsome, but he does not maintain his personal belongings
 * Ackley is a slob and everyone knows it, Stradlater is a secret slob
 * Stradlater asks Holden to write his English composition because he won’t have time to do it because of his date.
 * Holden finds out that the person Stradlater is taking on a date is Jane Gallagher, a girl that he was friends with one summer.
 * It was obvious that Holden had feelings for her but didn’t want Stradlater to know
 * Holden was curious to know if she still kept her kings in the back, a memory of her when they would play chess
 * Stradlater does not seem interested when Holden tells him the stories of him and Jane that summer
 * Stradlater was annoyed that Jane signed out till only 9 pm
 * Holden says she would have signed out for a longer time if he know what Stradlater was like
 * Holden’s comment made Stradlater happy
 * Holden is uneasy about whether he should go down and say hi to Jane but ends up not going because he was not in the mood
 * Stradlater leavers and Ackley comes into his room


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Chapter 4 notes by Leah E.: **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater was getting ready for a date and Holden was with him
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater always looked good but was a secret slob, his things were dirty but he looked sharp
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater was extremely cocky he thought he was the most handsome man
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater was always asking for favors and he asked Holden to write an english composition
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater doesn’t seem to care about school too much because he doesn’t care about the paper
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden doesn’t like when people can do things but then fake that they can’t or don’t want to do it
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden says he hates movies but likes the music in musicals
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater and Holden horse around and goof around a lot they seem like good friends but Holden doesn’t like anybody too much it seems
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden ends up knowing the girl Stradlater’s date, Jane Gallagher
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden seems to be very interested in Jane and is very interested how she is now since he knew her 2 years ago
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden seems very personal and doesn’t like that Stradlater is wearing his jacket
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 16px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Ackley barges into Holden’s room again and took his mind off Jane

=Chapter 4 Notes: By Clare .:= Plot Summary:
 * Holden goes into the “can” with Stradlater while he shaves for his date
 * Holden compares Stradlater hygiene with Ackley, saying that Stradlater is a “secret slob”
 * Stradlater begs Holden to write a composition for him in English, and it needs to be really descriptive
 * Holden becomes bored and he make up a tap dance to entertain his audience of Stradlater
 * Holden asks about his date and learns that it is Jane Gallagher, a girl he lived next to a summer ago
 * Holden's strong feelings for Jane are brought back and he begins to reminisce about her and when they would play checkers and he asks Stradlater about her now
 * He really wants to go and say hi to her but says “he isn't in the mood” and that he cannot go say hi because of this
 * He appears displeased that Stradlater is taking her out and he thinks he is no good for her
 * Stradlater borrows Holden's jacket and leaves
 * Holden sits in his chair thinking about Jane for a long time before Ackley barges in and annoys him

Important Quotations: //“I got bored sitting on that wash bowl after a while, so I backed up a few feet and started doing this tap dance, just for the hell of it. I was just amusing myself. I can't really tap-dance or anything, but it was a stone floor in the can, and it was good for tap-dancing//” (33). This quote represents Holden's personality and his desire to get the attention of those around him. Holden is also visibly distracted and cannot function being bored, so he must entertain himself.

Chapter 4 Notes: By Kevin K.: Summary:
 * Holden goes down into the can with Stradlater because he is shaving. They were the only ones in there as everyone else was down at the game.
 * Holden said that Stradlater was a slob in his own way. Only reason why he didn't show his slobby side is because he is in love with himself.
 * While in the washroom, Stradlater asks Holden if he can write his Descriptive English composition as Stradlater has to read about 100 pages for History.
 * Holden becomes bored at the washbowl and begins to tap dance to amuse himself. Stradlater watches as he shaves.
 * Holden asks who Stradlater's date was. Stradlater reveals it to be Jane Gallagher. Holden remembers this girl as he was a neighbor 2 summers ago.
 * Holden beings to remember the memories that he had with her. A memory that the two shared was playing checkers and tells Stradlater that she does Ballet.
 * Holden is saying that he "oughta go down" and say hi. However he wasn't in the mood to say hi.
 * Stradlater leaves and Ackley barges in.


 * Chapter 4 Summary - Atlee H**

Chapter 4 opens with Stradlater and Holden in the "can". All other people are down at the football game, so Holden and Stradlater can converse while Stradlater can shave. Holden describes Stradlater as a "secret slob" because he keeps his messy habits hidden, such as the rusty razor he uses to shave. Holden believes Stradlater spends so much time in front of the mirror because he is in love with himself. Stradlater asks Holden a huge favor for the weekend while he is on a short trip. He wants Holden to write a descriptive composition for his English class, due Monday. Holden never gives Stradlater a straight answer, and compares him to Ackley in the way he incorrectly identifies factors of success. Holden then begins to tap dance and imitate a man in a musical out of boredom. After horsing around, Holden and Stradlater discuss Stradlater's date, a girl named Jane Gallagher. Holden gets extremely excited about Stradlater's date because Holden and Jane used to be neighbors. Holden recalls memories he had with Jane when they were neighbors, with Stradlater hardly listening. Holden is very conflicted on whether to go talk to Jane for a minute, but decides not to because of his mood. Holden is nervous about Stradlater being Jane's date until Stradlater leaves, and Ackley reenters the room.

Erica T.:


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden goes to the bathroom with Stradlater and talks to him while he shaves. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden compares Stradlater’s habits with Ackley’s. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater ask Holden to write an English composition for him because he won't have time to do it after his date **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden ask about the date and finds out he knows her, Jane **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"> Holden has a crush on her and starts talking about her **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater is uninterested and leaves to go in the date. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Ackley then comes into the bathroom **

Alexa K:


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Chapter 4: **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden, who has nothing better to do, follows Stradlater into the bathroom and nags him while he shaves. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">We can now make the connection that Ackley bothers Holden, like Holden bothers Stradlater. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater is described as a “secret slob” **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">meaning he dresses and smells nice but little things like his razor are gross. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Stradlater asks Holden for a favor: to write his composition for him **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He adds that he doesn’t want a perfect paper. he wants grammatical errors to make it look like he wrote it himself. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden tells us that he doesn’t like when people blame the fact that they’re not good at essays because of grammatical errors **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden asks about a girl named Fitzgerald that Stradlater once dated . **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">When Stradlater tells Holden who he is dating now ( “Jean” Gallagher) he freaks out **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden corrects him and says her name is Jane not Jean and that he knows her. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden begins to recall the things she used to do (ex. the checkers) because clearly Stradlater knows nothing about her. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Jane only signs out from her dorm until 9:30 **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Ackley enters Holden’s room **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He is relieved, since Ackley will keep his mind of of Stradlater and Jane’s date. **

Shihab P:

=**__Summary__**=
 * The Chapter starts off with Holden and Stradlater having a conversation in the bathroom while Stradlater shaves.
 * Holden takes into account Stradlater's actions, and compares them to those of Ackleys.
 * The reader can infer that Holden bothers Stradlater much like Ackley bothers Holden.
 * Stradlater asks holden to make a composition for him, as he is too busy with his date.
 * Holden asks Stradlater who his date is, and he replies with Jane, who Holden has had a crush on for a while. Holden begins to rant about Jane.
 * Holden wants to go and say hi to Jane, but he claims "he isn't in the mood".
 * Stradlater becomes uninterested, borrows Holden's jacket, and leaves for his date.
 * Afterwards, Ackley barges in.

//From this chapter, we were able to find out that Holden isn't really able to identify when he is bothering someone. He also seems to lie to himself quite often, especially in his moment of when "he isn't in the mood".//