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ch 5 taylor wooley Chapter 5 Notes by Jacob E. > > > > > > > >
 * On Saturday night, the boys at Pencey always get steak for dinner.
 * Parents visit on Sunday, so, when they ask their son what he had for dinner last night, he'll say "steak."
 * Holden and his friend Mal Brossard take the bus into town for the night. He convinces Mal to let Ackley come along with them, because otherwise the kid will sit in his room and pick his pimples all night. What a pal.
 * It's snowing, and Holden packs a snowball.
 * He tries to throw it at about ten different objects but keeps changing his mind, and finally just carries it around until they get on the bus and the driver tells him to ditch it. We're pretty sure this is symbolic.
 * They don't end up going to the movie theater after all, since Mal and Ackley already saw it and Holden doesn't like watching movies with people who laugh at stuff that isn't even funny.
 * When they get back to the dorm, Ackley sits on Holden's bed and picks his pimples and won't leave after a barrage of hints that, really, he should leave. Now. Ackley then proceeds to tell a fake sex story
 * Finally, he gets out of there. Holden puts on his jammies, a bathrobe, and his red hunting hat to write Stradlater's composition.
 * It's supposed to be a descriptive work, but Holden can't think of a room or a house or anything like that. All he can think of is his brother Allie's baseball mitt.
 * Allie was left-handed and had a left-handed fielder's mitt. The thing about it is that it was covered in poems that Allie had written on in green ink so that he'd have something to do while hanging around in the ballfield
 * Allie's dead now, Holden tells us. He died from leukemia in 1946
 * Here's what Holden tells us about Allie: he was intelligent and good-natured and had red hair—the kind you could see from a mile away. He used to laugh so hard he'd fall off his chair.
 * the night that Allie died, he (Holden) went into the garage and broke all the windows with his fist—"just for the hell of it."
 * He tried to break all the windows on the car, too, but unfortunately he'd already broken his hand. He still can't make a good fist, but it's cool . It's not like he's going to be a violinist
 * Holden starts to talk about the phoniness of Pencey
 * Every Saturday night, the boys have steak so that when the parents come on Sunday, they would ask what the boys had for dinner last night, and the boys would respond by saying that they had steak
 * Holden and his friend Mal Bossard go out that night with Ackley
 * They were about to go see a movie, but don’t go to see it
 * After going back into their rooms, Holden writes Stradlater’s composition
 * Holden writes about his brother, Allie’s, baseball mitt
 * Allie died from Leukemia at a young age
 * Allie wrote poems on his baseball mitt in green
 * Holden was fond of Allie and never really got over his death

Chapter 5 notes by Ellen Park Holden talks about how they have a "special" dinner every Saturday so that when the parents come on Sunday the students can say that they had steak the other night. After dinner, he invited Mal and Ackley to watch a movie, but they go and eat hamburgers instead after Holden finds out that they had both already seen the movie. Afterwards, Ackley chills in room Holden's and listens to Ackley's story about a girl he had sex with. Holden wants Ackley to leave, but he doesn;t get the hint. Ackley finally leaves when Holden starts writing a composition for Stradlater. He writes about his brother Allie's baseball glove and how Allie had is mitt covered with poems in green ink. Holden mentions that Allie died of leukemia when he was eleven and talks about Allie and how he was smart and kind and innocent. Holden mentions that the night Allie died he slept in the garage and broke the windows with his bare hands. Chapter 5 by Raivyn Brown After dinner, Holden convinces his friend Mal Brossard to let Ackley come see a movie with them. But when they realize that Mal and Ackley have already seen the movie, they eat hamburgers and play pinball instead. Back at Pencey, Ackley hangs out in Holden 's room telling a story about having sex with a girl, which Holden knows is a lie. Holden finally gets Ackley to leave by starting Stradlater 's composition. Though it's off topic, he writes about his brother Allie 's baseball mitt, which Allie had covered with poems. Holden was thirteen when Allie died of leukemia at age eleven on July 18, 1946. He describes Allie as kind, innocent, and the smartest person in his family. The night Allie died Holden slept in the garage and broke the windows with his bare hands.
 * Chapter 5 by Rosilla E.**
 * Holden talks about how they had the same inedible dinner every Saturday night: steak, mashed potatoes, and brown betty.
 * Holden then makes plans to go Agerstown and watch a movie with Mal Brossard and Ackley
 * Mel was on the wrestling team and he was not a huge fan of Ackley coming along with them
 * Holden wanted Ackley to get out of his room for once
 * While waiting for Ackley to get ready, Holden goes over to the window and opened it
 * He then packs a snowball, but he just held it. He didn’t even throw it anywhere, he held it in his hands until he got on the bus when the bus driver made him throw the snowball out
 * Since Ackley and Mal both already saw the movie they were going to watch, they just ate some hamburgers, played pinball and returned back to Pencey
 * Holden didn’t really want to go to the movies with both Mal and Ackley, they laughed like hyenas at things that weren’t even funny
 * Holden start writing Stradlater’s composition which he decided to write about his brother Allie’s baseball glove
 * Allie died of leukemia when he was 11Allie was smart, nice, and had red hair
 * He would write poems in green ink on baseball glove, so when he was on field and nobody was up to bat he wouldn’t get bored
 * The night Allie died, Holden smashed all the windows in the garage with his wrist
 * After that, Holden could never make a tight fist
 * He finished Stradlater’s composition and went to sleep heating Ackley’s snoring

Chapter 5 Notes: By Clare D.:

Plot Summary:
 * After a tough and unappetizing steak dinner Holden makes plans to see a movie with Mal Brossard and Ackley
 * They go into Agerstown to see the movie, but Mal and Ackley had seen it before so instead they just eat burgers and play pinball before heading back to Pencey
 * After they get back Mal goes to look for a bridge game and Ackley picks his pimples on Holden's bed while telling a story about a girl he claims to o have intimate relations with the summer before
 * Holden finally gets him to leave and starts to write the composition for Stradlater
 * Holden decides to write about a baseball mit that was his brother Allies, with poems written in green ink all over it
 * Then Holden quickly describes his brother Allie, who died of Leukemia
 * Holden says that he was the most intelligent member of the family and was an incredibly nice, innocent child
 * He is clearly still grieving over Allie
 * He mentions Allie’s bright red hair and talks about the night he died
 * On that night he slept in the garage and broke all the windows with his bare hands
 * He finishes the composition and goes to sleep listening to Ackley snoring in the next room

Important Quotations: “//The bus driver opened the doors and made me throw it out. I told him I wasn't going to chuck it at anybody, but he wouldn't believe me. People never believe you//” (42). This quote it important because it adds to Holden's character of never being able to follow through. He can't get enough through school and now he is incapable of throwing this snowball, and he realizes this.

“//It was a very stupid thing to do, I'll admit, but I hardly didn't even know I was doing it, and you didn't know Allie//” (44). This quote demonstrates how Holden was impacted by the death of his brother and he was so devastated that he had no idea what he was doing, or why he was doing it, he just knew he missed his brother.


 * Ch.5 Summary by Mahin M.: **
 * **Holden talked about how he had an inedible meal **
 * **Talked about his friend Mal Brossard, and how he went to the movies, but then he actually didn’t **
 * **Also apparently does Stradlater’s homework **
 * **Decides to base it off of his younger brother Allie’s baseball mitt **
 * **Shows his strong feelings for Allie **
 * **Recalled the night Allie died **
 * **Finishes Stradlater’s composition and ends with listening to Ackley snore **


 * __Important Quote:__  ”I mean,-but outside of that I don’t care much. I mean I’m not going to be a goddam surgeon or a violinist or anything anyway.” (44). **


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Ch. 5 Summary: Kevin Kim **
 * Holden talks about how on Saturdays, they always have the same dinner; steak. However, Holden despises these "steaks" and it's only for the kids what they had for dinner.
 * Holden realizes that he is bored and wants to do something on a Saturday night. He calls up his friend Mal Brossard.
 * They decide to go to town and watch a movie. However, they had all seen the movie so they didn't watch it.
 * They return to Holden's room and hang out there. Holden kicks them out saying that he was to write Stradlater's English Composition.
 * Struggling to think about his topic, he uses his deceased brother, Allie's, baseball glove.
 * While writing this story, he begins to remember Allie and the night that he died.
 * He finishes the composition and hears Ackley snoring.

Allie was described as being a lefty and having red hair. The color red is a symbol of anger and madness. However, Allie is the opposite of that. Another opposite that Allie has is that he is a lefty. In most cultures, the right hand is the dominant. However, Allie was a lefty. With these two symbols, one could identify Allie as maybe being a rebel.
 * Symbolism: Lefty and Red hair **

Morgan W.:


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Chapter 5 Notes **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">On saturday night, Holden, Ackley, and his friend Mal Brossard take the bus downtown to see a movie, but don't end up seeing it. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Instead they go back to the doms and Holden writes Stradlater’s composition paper. Holden writes the paper about a baseball glove that once belonged to his brother Allie. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden says that Allie died of leukemia on July 18, 1946 while they were in Maine for vacation. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden was 13 years old when Allie died and when it happened, he punched out all the windows in their garage. Holden tried to punch the windows of their family car but he had already broken his wrist. **

Ryan M.:


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden complains about the “Steak” dinner that they give on Saturday nights **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He, after the dinner, gets into a Snowball fight **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He, Ackley, and Brossard decide to go see a movie, but since Ackley and Brossard had already seen it, they went for hamburgers and pinball instead **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Ackley concocts stories about a girl he supposedly had sexual intercourse with. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">His brother Allie is mentioned for the first time **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Died of Leukemia at a young age, was a very nice child, had distinctive red hair. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Speaks about how he reacted to the death by punching out the garage windows **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He begins and completes the composition for Stradlater. **

Alexa K.:


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Chapter 5 **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Every Saturday night, the boys at Pencey have steak for dinner **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">This is because most parents visits their sons on sunday, so when they ask what they ate the night before they say, “steak”. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden and his friend Mal Bossard go out that night (snowing that night) **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Mal invites Ackley with them, so he doesn’t have to stay in his bedroom and pick his pimples **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">They were going to see a movie, but both Ackley and mal saw it already and Holden doesn’t like movies when people laugh at stuff that isn’t funny **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">When they get back to their dorms both boys hint for Ackley to leave. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">he stays and picks his pimples on Holden’s bed **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">After Ackley leaves, Holden begins Stradlater’s composition **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Writes about his brother, Allie’s Baseball mitt **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">We learn that Holden’s brother Allie died from Leukemia in 1946 **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Allie was left handed and wrote poems all over the mitt in green ink. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">he would read the poems while standing on the field **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden, who only briefly tells us about Allie says: **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He had red hair **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He was smart **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He laughed so much he fell off the chair **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">On the night Allie died, Holden broke all the garage windows from punching them **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">“just for the hell of it” **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">tells us he would have broke the car windows, but he had already broke his hand **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">he still cannot fully make a fist **

Erica T.:


 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Chapter 5 **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">After a trip to town with Ackley and another student, Holden goes to his room and composes the descriptive paper for Stradlater. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">He decides to write about his brother Allie’s left baseball glove. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Allie died of Leukemia on July 18, 1946, while the family was on vacation in Maine. **
 * <span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">**<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14.66px; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;">Holden was 13 years old at the time and Allie was 2 years younger. **

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Grace S - Chapter 5
 * Holden complains about the dinner that is served every Saturday night at Pencey: bad steak, mashed potatoes, and brown betties
 * After dinner Holden and the other students have a snowball fight outside
 * Holden gets together with his wrestler friend named Mal Brossard to take a bus into Agerstown to get hamburgers and see a "lousy" movie. Mal lets Holden bring Ackley along although Mal doesn't like Ackley much
 * While waiting for Ackley to finish getting ready, Holden makes a snowball and tries to throw it at different objects, but he cant bring himself to do it. He kept the snowball on him and the bus driver made him get rid of it
 * The three boys ended up not watching the movie and playing pinball instead, then they arrived back at the dorm. Mal left to go find someone to play bridge with, and Ackley stayed with Holden in Holden + Stradlater's dorm.
 * After Ackley talked about a girl he supposedly had sex with while picking at his pimples on Holden's bed, Holden told him to beat it because he had to write the composition for Stradlater.
 * Holden describes his brother Allie after deciding to write Stradlater's composition with Allie's baseball mitt.
 * Allie characteristics: left handed, had a baseball mitt with poems written all over it in green ink, died of leukemia, was two years younger than Holden, super smart, nice + very red hair
 * ***flashback*** When Allie died, Holden broke all of the garage windows (he was 13 at the time). Cant make a full fist anymore from the physical damage.
 * ***real time*** Holden pulls out Allie's baseball mitt bc he //just happened to have// //it with him// and started copying down all the poems for Stradlater's assignment. Holden was too fond of not crediting Allie for these poems.
 * Chapter ends with Holden staring out the window listening to Ackley snore and commenting on all of Ackley's biological problems
 * "You had to feel a little sorry for the crazy sonuvabitch" (45).

Shihab P. =__**Summary**__=
 * Holden complains about the "steak" dinner served at Pency on Saturday.
 * After they eat dinner, the boys all get in a snowball fight.
 * Holden gets with his friend Mal Brossard and asks to bring along Ackley. Mal lets Ackley come along, although he doesn't really like him much.
 * While waiting for Ackley to get ready, Holden makes a snowball, but is unable to throw it. He kept the snowball with him the whole time, until he was forced to throw it away before going on the bus.
 * The boys were headed to see a movie, but ended up not watching it and instead just played pinball instead.
 * Mal left once the boys got back to their dorms, but Ackley decided to stay with Holden in his Holden + Stradlater's dorm.
 * Ackley began to tell a story about a girl while picking his pimples.
 * Once Ackley left, Holden began to write Stradlater's composition.
 * Holden talks about his little brother, Allie, who died of Leukemia.
 * When Allie died, Holden was 13 and he broke all the garage windows, causing him to be unable to form a full fist anymore.